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some (not all)headers missing after getting new headers
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jhr1948



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: some (not all)headers missing after getting new headers Reply with quote

i've owned newsleecher since 8/04 and love it. just recently i've noticed that when i update the headers of a group some start disapearing. for instance binary group uk.mp3, when i 1st retrieve headers from scratch everything's fine. if i go later that night and turn on the computer and update headers, i'll notice some files are missing making that album incomplete.

i've already made sure no hide/show filters such as (incomplete, binaries etc...) are not on. i also have the days to keep at 40 (using newshosting).

i'm at a lost. i even went back to the latest final version and still had the problem.

please help, been racking my brain. don't want to redownload headers to show all files, takes way too long.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: some (not all)headers missing after getting new headers Reply with quote

jhr1948 wrote:
i've already made sure no hide/show filters such as (incomplete, binaries etc...) are not on. i also have the days to keep at 40 (using newshosting).
Also make sure the filter fields are empty, sometimes a stray whitespace character can really mess things up. The easiest way to see if items are being filtered is by checking the numbers in the tab selector. If items are being filtered it will show two numbers (e.g. "[ 1000 / 2000 ]", which represent the number of shown files against the actual number of files in the active group(s). If only shows one number, then no articles are being filtered.

Are the missing articles always entire files, or do previously complete files suddenly show up as incomplete?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the quick repsonse
fields have been checked and are definately empty the tab is not showing #/#.

as far as the missing files goes, they were complete before. it would be a album where each file is an mp3 (but i also saw it on boneless where the files were rars) and i'm looking at a few examples at the moment.

ex.
01-filename.mp3
02-filename.mp3
05-filename.mp3
and so on, skipping some in between

if i completely purge the group and download from scratch, they are there. but considering how long it takes to d/l boneless headers that's too much work.

im open to more sugg.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhr1948 wrote:
ex.
01-filename.mp3
02-filename.mp3
05-filename.mp3
and so on, skipping some in between

if i completely purge the group and download from scratch, they are there. but considering how long it takes to d/l boneless headers that's too much work.

jhr1948 -
AFA the group(s) that you did purge, have they been problemless since the purge or does the problem persist?
Also, I do understand you correctly that the missing posts are definitely not missing after updating the group and that they disappear upon the next update (sorry, it seems clear enough, but I just want to make sure that I understand the problem). In addition, they do not appear when "New Only" is unchecked (disabled), correct?

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jhr1948



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

after i purge and download the headers again, all files are there. its not until after i update the headers on another occasion that some are missing.

as far as "new only" i don't see it anywhere. im using the latest beta if that helps. if that's the same as show/hide old articles then i do have it set to show old articles.

what confuses me the most is that i can see all these older headers, there are just missing files (not all rars or mp3s are there) and its not that they are incomplete. they are just not listed anymore.
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jhr1948



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

still messing with it and nothing is working

i d/l BNR2 (free reader) and don't have this same problem.

its really annoying. i can purge a group, download the headers and all files are there. once i close newsleecher, open it, and update the headers there are missing files. not all older files are gone, just a few here and there. Aggghhhh!!!!!

anyone else can shed some light?
I'd hate to start using BNR2 especially since i paid for newsleecher.
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shadowfighter



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please update to beta 4 of 3.5, there it is much easier to see which filters are on and off..

In the articles tab all options must be turned on to see everything !

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jhr1948



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, i uninstalled last night (made sure no folders existed and rebooted) and noticed the newest beta out, so i installed that one. i agree i can see the filters better, but i'm still having the same problems.

they are all checked which seems to mean show and after i update headers by the second time some files are missing. AAAGGGHHHH!!!! sorry, didn't get too much sleep trying to troubleshoot.

also, to make sure i'm understood, i am showing old files (actually, i've taken off the "mark as old" option in the midst of figuring this stuff out, so they are all still highlighted green), they are just not all there after a header update (whether "mark as old" is checked or not).

if its a series of mp3's of an album, they will be all there when i first retrieve headers, but some are missing when i update headers.

if possible, can i post screenshots? if not, can i send someone shots to show 1st time headers then 2nd headers update?

i've never had this problem, its getting frustrating. i was thinking it was newshosting but since i tried the free reader bnr2 and didn't have the same problem, that seemed to rule that out. the only difference since i've noticed this problem is that i am using a newly built computer. i was starting to think that my hdd is corrupting the groups cache, but then why would bnr2 not have the same problem.

oh what a headache, thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try reproducing the problem in the same group twice, do the same files dissappear?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright, i think we're getting somewhere. looking at a specific album i noticed if i recreated it twice, the same exact files are missing.
so all files are there on the first header d/l, then i close NL, open, update that group's headers and the same files are missing as before.

the album i looked at was a 2cd one. the first cd was missing 6 files while the second was only missing 1 file. this was the case when i recreated the scenario.

also, keep in mind its not just this album, i scrolled up and down and noticed almost all albums had a few files missing on the 2nd header update. like i said, i also noticed this w/boneless which is a pain to d/l headers from b/c there are so many, so i'm using a.b.w.u.mp3.

i wanted to think its the a.b.w.u.mp3 group, but then i would assume it would do that w/the free reader also and it didn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the same files are the ones missing after a 2nd time i d/l all headers. still, i'm not sure why this is happening. anyone else can shed light?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhr1948 wrote:
so the same files are the ones missing after a 2nd time i d/l all headers. still, i'm not sure why this is happening.

Ok, it’s the same posts each time.
If you would, please send an email with a few sample subjects of the missing messages (include the groupname) to: nllogs@gmail.com. Include your username, the name of the forum that you posted to, and the link to your post (you can get this from the shortcut image at the top left of every post).

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the reply

as far as the sample subjects, do you want them in a screenshot or should i just manually list the subjects?

thanks again for the help
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A screenshot would prevent possible typos, but it doesn't really matter.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhr1948 wrote:
as far as the sample subjects, do you want them in a screenshot or should i just manually list the subjects?

dwazegek wrote:
A screenshot would prevent possible typos, but it doesn't really matter.

Yes, either is fine. You can copy and paste from the message list (properties). Much less typing. Up to you jhr1948.

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