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Beta 14 Garbage Probems

 
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Icefreez



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:13 am    Post subject: Beta 14 Garbage Probems Reply with quote

I was so excited when I seen beta 14 and like some of the new features being added Smile (Expecially the download progress in the tray icon)

To the point. Garbage collection still seems to have its foot in the door. Here are my complete logs of fresh install of beta 14, and the 3 (it think only 3) garbage collects that It did resulting in 0 files remaining the the group it cleaned.

The only groups not affected after loading and unloading the groups about ... 100 times was a group that had 128 headers and a group that had 620 headers

LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG--LOG

Loading transfer queue ...
Loading search server results ...
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Default download folder not set! - Setting it to: D:\Program Files\NewsLeecher14\downloads\
Midco 4 successfully received a list of groups from server.
Done listing groups from server(s). 30351 groups received.
Unable to connect / authenticate at server: Midco 4 (200 Supernews NNRP server ready - http://www.supernews.com (posting ok)).
Unable to connect / authenticate at server: Midco 4 (200 Supernews NNRP server ready - http://www.supernews.com (posting ok)).
Unable to connect / authenticate at server: Midco 4 (200 Supernews NNRP server ready - http://www.supernews.com (posting ok)).
***********************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.alias **************
***********************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Receiving Headers @ Midco 4. Range 1470389-1493858. Cache @ -1.
* No cached entries present. Receiving all headers.
Unable to connect / authenticate at server: Midco 4 (200 Supernews NNRP server ready - http://www.supernews.com (posting ok)).
Unable to connect / authenticate at server: Midco 4 (200 Supernews NNRP server ready - http://www.supernews.com (posting ok)).
***********************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.alias **************
***********************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.00% garbage.
* Saved 522 group headers to cache ...
******************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.tv.simpsons **************
******************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Receiving Headers @ Midco 4. Range 4088254-4113106. Cache @ -1.
* No cached entries present. Receiving all headers.
Unable to connect / authenticate at server: Midco 4 (200 Supernews NNRP server ready - http://www.supernews.com (posting ok)).
******************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.tv.simpsons **************
******************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.00% garbage.
* Saved 1051 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy **************
***********************************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Receiving Headers @ Midco 4. Range 2862399-2929207. Cache @ -1.
* No cached entries present. Receiving all headers.
***********************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy **************
***********************************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.00% garbage.
* Saved 1663 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi **************
***********************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Receiving Headers @ Midco 4. Range 14460509-14648237. Cache @ -1.
* No cached entries present. Receiving all headers.
***********************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi **************
***********************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.00% garbage.
* Saved 5884 group headers to cache ...
****************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Receiving Headers @ Midco 4. Range 468342-469804. Cache @ -1.
* No cached entries present. Receiving all headers.
****************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.00% garbage.
* Saved 102 group headers to cache ...
*****************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
Receiving Headers @ Midco 4. Range 196785-263090. Cache @ -1.
* No cached entries present. Receiving all headers.
*****************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.00% garbage.
* Saved 376 group headers to cache ...
****************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
Loaded 102 (12 outdated) articles from cache.
****************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 0.83% garbage.
* Saved 90 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi **************
***********************************************************
Loaded 5884 (2683 outdated) articles from cache.
***********************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi **************
***********************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 46.30% garbage.
* Saved 3201 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.alias **************
***********************************************************
Loaded 522 (122 outdated) articles from cache.
***********************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.alias **************
***********************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 27.50% garbage.
* Saved 400 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy **************
***********************************************************************
Loaded 1663 (621 outdated) articles from cache.
***********************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy **************
***********************************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 31.52% garbage.
* Saved 1042 group headers to cache ...
******************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.tv.simpsons **************
******************************************************
Loaded 1051 (425 outdated) articles from cache.
******************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.tv.simpsons **************
******************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 40.95% garbage.
* Saved 626 group headers to cache ...
*****************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
Loaded 376 (247 outdated) articles from cache.
*****************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
****************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
Loaded 90 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
* Cleaning cache as it contains more than 50% garbage. It currently contains 60.57% garbage.
* Saved 129 group headers to cache ...
****************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
* Saved 0 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy **************
***********************************************************************
Loaded 1042 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
***********************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy **************
***********************************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 31.52% garbage.
* Saved 1042 group headers to cache ...
****************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
Loaded 0 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
****************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
***********************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi **************
***********************************************************
Loaded 3201 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
* Cleaning cache as it contains more than 50% garbage. It currently contains 100.00% garbage.
* Saved 0 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi **************
***********************************************************
* Saved 0 group headers to cache ...
***********************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.alias **************
***********************************************************
Loaded 400 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
***********************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.alias **************
***********************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 27.50% garbage.
* Saved 400 group headers to cache ...
******************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.tv.simpsons **************
******************************************************
Loaded 626 (1 outdated) articles from cache.
******************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.tv.simpsons **************
******************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 50% garbage. It currently contains 40.95% garbage.
* Saved 625 group headers to cache ...
*****************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
Loaded 129 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

still crashes on my machine too... sent a bugreport per email Smile
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exqt



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what crashes? you mean you're still losing headers? btw i did some limited testing and it hasn't lost a single header yet (a.b.dvdr). will keep fingers crossed ...

P.S.
there's a sticky about this bug at the very top.. it would probably be better if we post all info there.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i haven't had the time to see if it actually deletes header, but the application crashes with the well known crash message. if i tried to update the headers for another group, it even downloads using 2 connection per server (or at least 2 bots are showing the identical task)...

PLEASE just give us the garbage cleaner DISABLE option!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Beta 14 Garbage Probems Reply with quote

Thanks for the log Icefreez.

Ok, here's the problem:

Icefreez - Incorrect Garbage Cleaning - wrote:
*****************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
Loaded 376 (247 outdated) articles from cache.
*****************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
****************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
Loaded 90 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
* Cleaning cache as it contains more than 50% garbage. It currently contains 60.57% garbage.
* Saved 129 group headers to cache ...
****************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
* Saved 0 group headers to cache ...
*************************************************************


Instead of the above, the log should look like this:

Correct Garbage Cleaning - wrote:
*****************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
Loaded 376 (247 outdated) articles from cache.
*****************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.smallville **************
*****************************************************
* Cleaning cache as it contains more than 50% garbage. It currently contains 60.57% garbage.
* Saved 129 group headers to cache ...
****************************************************************
**[LOAD]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
Loaded 90 (0 outdated) articles from cache.
****************************************************************
**[SAVE]****** alt.binaries.multimedia.smallville **************
****************************************************************
* Skipping cleanup of the cache as it contains less than 10% garbage. It currently contains 0,00% garbage.
* Saved 90 group headers to cache ...
*************************************************************



It seems like NL loads the 'a.b.m.smallville' group *before* it has saved the 'a.b.smallville' group. That's the reason for the header screwup.

I tried to load/save the exact same groups as you did (even on 3 different computers), but I'm still unable to reproduce the prob. Maybe it has something to do with the way you navigate the groups. Do you change newsgroups by using the 'Active Group' pulldown-box, or by using the group manager? And if you use the group manager, do you doubleclick the newsgroup to want to activate, or do you check the checkbox next to the groupname?

Cheers
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terrestrial



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Beta 14 Garbage Probems Reply with quote

Spiril wrote:
Thanks for the log Icefreez.

It seems like NL loads the 'a.b.m.smallville' group *before* it has saved the 'a.b.smallville' group. That's the reason for the header screwup.

I tried to load/save the exact same groups as you did (even on 3 different computers), but I'm still unable to reproduce the prob. Maybe it has something to do with the way you navigate the groups. Do you change newsgroups by using the 'Active Group' pulldown-box, or by using the group manager? And if you use the group manager, do you doubleclick the newsgroup to want to activate, or do you check the checkbox next to the groupname?

Cheers



I think you are right Spiral. I have the same experiences when using the pulldown box it usally errors. When i use the group manager it works better. Hope this helps you solve the bug
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrestrial (and other users infested with the garbage-cleaning bug),

If you have the time, can you send me a copy/paste of the log next time the bug happens for you? Just to the forum or to me personally @ spiril@newsleecher.com.

I need as many garbage-cleaning-bug logs as possible from users so I can find a pattern to why this killer bug continues to popup!

Just if you got the time of course! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I updated headers was right click the group in the usenet manager (I think its still called that in b14) and select "Update Group (new)"

Then after I that exactly to several groups I begin to open them randomly by double clicking on each group.
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