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FAQ - I can't connect!? (i.e. Unable to Authenticate)
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techfuzz
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: FAQ - I can't connect!? (i.e. Unable to Authenticate) Reply with quote

Virtually every day someone comes asking why they can't connect. Here are the 3 very most common solutions every needs to attempt before creating a new thread requesting support here.

1. If you haven't ever configured NL before or are setting it up again after a reinstall, double check your username, password, and server settings - then triple check them again.

2. If you have been happily cruising along using NL and then one day you cannot connect to your server, check your usenet service providers network status page.

3. If you still can't connect after quadruple checking your settings in NL and double-checked the network status of your usenet service provider, your server settings could be corrupt. Please exit NL, then (backup and) delete all the files under X:\Program Files\NewsLeecher\data\ and then open NL and recreate your servers and try logging in again.

EDIT: It has also been suggested that you check your firewall to make sure it is allowing outbound connections on port 119 (default NNTP) or whichever port you are using to connect to your usenet service provider. Thanks Morpheus25.

EDIT: DDT2005 also suggested that you reset your cable/dsl modem and any routers you might be using.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for very much for that techfuzz, I think that this deserves to be a sticky so watch this space! Wink

Best Wishes,

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A followup to step 3 above.

If you just want to delete the server entries, delete the servers directory in the newsleecher\data\ directory. Then relaunch NL and setup your server configs again.

No need to delete the entire data directory unless you are having other issues (corrupt headers, queues, etc).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be to do with your firewall not allowing access to port 119 which newsleecher uses to connect to news server. I had this problem, and found out my firewall (Norton) was restricting access to port 119, I then simply manually added port 119, and things are working fine.

Check out your firewall settings and see if that changes anything.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Morpheus25, I added a bit about the firewall to my initial post.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Feature Request for cannot connect/authenticate problems Reply with quote

Here's the problem I encountered overnight from the NL log:

04/30/05 00:41:34 Resetting hanging (121 seconds of inactivity) connection on the "Easynews 443" server.
04/30/05 00:41:34 Resetting hanging (121 seconds of inactivity) connection on the "Easynews 443" server.
04/30/05 00:41:55 Unable to connect / authenticate server: Easynews 443 (205 Closing connection - goodbye).
04/30/05 00:41:55 Unable to connect / authenticate server: Easynews 443 (205 Closing connection - goodbye).
04/30/05 00:44:33 Auto disconnecting from server(s) due to 5 minutes of inactivity. (04/30/05 00:44:33)
{manual intervention here}
04/30/05 05:28:48 Successfully downloaded article ....

Turns out that my cable modem was offline for 17 minutes (I have a log for that too). What angers me is the fact that NL didn't continue to retry connecting to the server. I also had NL configured to shutdown the computer and it didn't even do that. My computer just sat there for nearly five hours while I slept.

So a feature request: The program needs to keep trying to connect/authenticate an infinite number of times while the download queue has something in it.

Shocked

Oh. I'm using NL v2.1 Final.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Feature Request for cannot connect/authenticate problems Reply with quote

DDT2005 wrote:
Here's the problem I encountered overnight from the NL log:

04/30/05 00:41:34 Resetting hanging (121 seconds of inactivity) connection on the "Easynews 443" server.
04/30/05 00:41:34 Resetting hanging (121 seconds of inactivity) connection on the "Easynews 443" server.
04/30/05 00:41:55 Unable to connect / authenticate server: Easynews 443 (205 Closing connection - goodbye).
04/30/05 00:41:55 Unable to connect / authenticate server: Easynews 443 (205 Closing connection - goodbye).
04/30/05 00:44:33 Auto disconnecting from server(s) due to 5 minutes of inactivity. (04/30/05 00:44:33)
{manual intervention here}
04/30/05 05:28:48 Successfully downloaded article ....

Turns out that my cable modem was offline for 17 minutes (I have a log for that too). What angers me is the fact that NL didn't continue to retry connecting to the server. I also had NL configured to shutdown the computer and it didn't even do that. My computer just sat there for nearly five hours while I slept.

So a feature request: The program needs to keep trying to connect/authenticate an infinite number of times while the download queue has something in it.

Shocked

Oh. I'm using NL v2.1 Final.

options->connection, set newsleecher to retry the connection every so often, and make sure the "never auto retry" checkbox is unchecked.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Feature Request for cannot connect/authenticate problems Reply with quote

dwazegek wrote:
options->connection, set newsleecher to retry the connection every so often, and make sure the "never auto retry" checkbox is unchecked.


I had those options in place when this occurred.

The program gave up trying to connect when it couldn't connect to my server. My cable modem gives my computer a temporary IP (for maintenance purposes), while the modem is disconnected from my provider. NL tried to connect to my server without an actual Internet connection present.

So my feature request remains. I'll just use BNR2 for overnight downloading. It never gives up until the queue is emptied.

Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Feature Request for cannot connect/authenticate problems Reply with quote

DDT2005 wrote:
dwazegek wrote:
options->connection, set newsleecher to retry the connection every so often, and make sure the "never auto retry" checkbox is unchecked.


I had those options in place when this occurred.

The program gave up trying to connect when it couldn't connect to my server. My cable modem gives my computer a temporary IP (for maintenance purposes), while the modem is disconnected from my provider. NL tried to connect to my server without an actual Internet connection present.

Are you able to reproduce this when your cable connection is operating normally by forcing a disconnection? For example, disconnect your ethernet cable or put the modem on standy.

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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Feature Request for cannot connect/authenticate problems Reply with quote

DDT2005 wrote:
04/30/05 00:44:33 Auto disconnecting from server(s) due to 5 minutes of inactivity. (04/30/05 00:44:33)
[snip]
So a feature request: The program needs to keep trying to connect/authenticate an infinite number of times while the download queue has something in it.


Check the box "Never auto logoff" in the Options>Connection screen. Right now it is unchecked and you have the auto-logoff set to 5 minutes.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me run the test mentioned by Lips and the config change mentioned by Smudge and I'll get back here.

Cool


Update. I reproduced the cable modem failure by disconnecting the coaxial cable from it. Computer was then assigned a temp IP as I discussed earlier. Then I reconnected the cable. With "never auto logoff" checked, the queue resumed downloading five minutes (another setting) after having established connectivity. This will work.

Feature to continually retry connecting was already present (although it only tries once every five minutes, the minimum setting; BNR2 retries once every 10-30 seconds).

Perhaps you should put my experience into the FAQ. Also could we lower the minimum setting to say, 1 minute, instead of 5?

Smile

Another update. I just noticed that my little test corrupted two segments of a 40 segment RAR part. Doesn't NL throw away segments that aren't completely downloaded? (I call them segments, you probably call them parts).

Confused
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDT2005 wrote:
Feature to continually retry connecting was already present (although it only tries once every five minutes, the minimum setting; BNR2 retries once every 10-30 seconds).

Perhaps you should put my experience into the FAQ. Also could we lower the minimum setting to say, 1 minute, instead of 5?


The lowest retry setting is 5 seconds, not 5 minutes. You need to change the dropdown menu to seconds if you want it to 1 minute or less.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smudge wrote:
The lowest retry setting is 5 seconds, not 5 minutes. You need to change the dropdown menu to seconds if you want it to 1 minute or less.


My bad, I didn't realize that.

Embarassed

But I still suggest that my experience be posted to the FAQ, as this is not the first time my cable modem went offline. It does that because of intermittent interference on my TV cable.

And your comment on the corrupted segments I received was what?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem with my connection. I cannot connect to my newsserver. I have triple tried to check my password. I even deleted the data file of newsleecher and newsleechter itself . I have got problems with my connection when I wanted to download too much at once. Newsleecher gives as an answer server says ""or 205 closing connection goodbye. I've got Newsleecher for two days and yesterday the problem disappeared with deleting the data file, but today this did not work. Can anyone help me?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uniboy wrote:
I have a problem with my connection. I cannot connect to my newsserver. I have triple tried to check my password. I even deleted the data file of newsleecher and newsleechter itself . I have got problems with my connection when I wanted to download too much at once. Newsleecher gives as an answer server says ""or 205 closing connection goodbye. I've got Newsleecher for two days and yesterday the problem disappeared with deleting the data file, but today this did not work. Can anyone help me?

What news server are you using? Do you have a firewall/router? If so, have you added NL as an allowed exception? Are you using antivirus, if so, what?

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