Display of Partially Open Vgroup When Collapsed

[newsman]

At first I was going along with you guys and thought smudges cool picture was good enough. But then I looked at how I personally use newsleecher. There is one big difference between how I use and how you guys use it. I use the folder icons. I like them, and many others probably like then two!! If go with a gray checkbox or minus sign it's fine but I wish to have the icon modified also so us people that like the icons are kept happy.

So below is my proposal marked in red. I used a blue exclamation point graphic. Also below is a list of sample icons that are in newsleecher right now so should be easy to use. Let me know if you like some other icon better. My second pick was the red circle with horizontal white line. Also to keep the icons synced with the normal check box icon I would add the graphic with green circle and white check to the root of each vgroup when all are activated per vgroup.

As a by-product of doing what I mention the check box can be optional when switching to icon mode. Just could double click things or space bar to toggle their icons. Just another option and would give space back to us who like the icons Just like those who don't use the icons already gets space back.

Sample 1-How NL appears when nothing is checked and everything is unloaded. ctrl-u also make it look like this.

Sample 2-When one thing is activated.

Sample 3-One thing deactivated others are unloaded.

Sample 4-Everything in books activated.

Sample 5-All vgroups activated.

Sample 6-All in Apps activated some in books activated.

Proposal-My proposal modification to the vgroup root icon folder when only a few are activated with a blue exclamation.

This plus what you guys want in terms of light grey or minus sign for the regular check box would make all user camps happy imo.

I'll see about the built in scheduler I use 3rd party but I'd like it built in. I saw the orginal pics.

[dwazegek]

I'd prefer either smudge's first example or Lips' example for the checkboxes. I've never seen a dash used in a checkbox (as in smudge's second example), and also think a grey checkmark would seem more natural.

As for newsman's proposal, I don't use the icons (disabled them) so I don't really care what happens there, but if it makes other people happy, why not.

[Spiril]

As a quick (temp) solution for the next beta, I'll darken the row color for partly selected virtual groups.

Changing the checkmark feature to support a 3rd checkmark state for partly selected VG's require some more work. I'll implement that later on.
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Bug fixed. No idea how. Hate it when that happens. Trying to break it again now. Will. not. be. defeated.

[Lips]

[newsman]

Hmm guess we'll have to live with this quick fix. But I won't let this topic die on that note.

Here is my interpretation of what the quick fix may look like and why I believe it may fail if below exception is not addressed. In the figure below we see a row darkened for a partly selected virtual groups. However if user uses the arrow keys (3rd picture in the picture) then the row darkening is easily defeated leading to confusion. Unless you will also manage that behavior.



Now here is what i'd like to see eventually when have time to do it properly.

In this picture I added two new option to the "more" drop down menu. One option named "Images and check boxes". And one option named "Only Images". I used the suggested light grey check mark on a pale grey backdrop.

So as the picture describes in "All Mode" you get icons and checkboxes. Keeps people who been using it that way happy. Next we have "No Image Mode" keeping the old schoolers happy. Last we have a brand new one "Nothing but images Mode". This will keep people happy who like iconification. Also note that it is also a functional fix for the user as they will regain some screen space. Note by using only images the full abbreviated name of the group is diplayed. a.b.e.tecnical as opposed to a.b.e.tecnic. They current keyboard keys would still work with this mode. Right arrow to expand a group. Space bar to toggle between activate and deavtivate. Ctrl+u to unload so no biggie there.

Icon prejudice is not something that should be practiced here LOL !!!! I don't see any check boxes in windows explorer when browsing folders which this thing kinda behaves like to a certain extent...

[Spiril]

Hmm, what about just making the 'virtual group name' font Italic if one or more of the groupmembers are active?

That would work in every current scenario: with/without checkboxes and with/without images.
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Bug fixed. No idea how. Hate it when that happens. Trying to break it again now. Will. not. be. defeated.

[newsman]

Hmm perhaps a decent low tech solution indeed. But I still want my images one day. Hahahaha!

[Spiril]

[cosmos]

Whoa!!!

All I want to say is simply that I love the picture labelled "Nothing but Images (Personal favorite"). That is beautiful. I hate the gawdy checkboxes in the group view, there are so many of those darn things. It just looks more polished without them to me. I don't practice icon prejudice. All icons are treated equally where I come from

[dwazegek]

[newsman]

Cool for the consideration, I hope most will get the piece they were looking for when you get at it.

[Lips]

[Spiril]

[devolution]

Sprial I tried beta 3.0 6. I think you missed a little something when putting in this addition. When I partially select some groups from a virtual group it shows the the virtual group as italic. That is good.

However when I show all the groups in a virtual group or simple activate the whole virtual group the italic still remains.

I think the italic should return to normal when the whole virtual group is activated. By whole I mean if either the users manually activates all the individual groups within a virtual group or if they simply activate the whole virtual group.

Thanks though for this. It is helpful, I usually have to do a deactivate all when I get lost. This would help a bunch.

Oh and I too am an icon lover! No shame in that

[newsman]