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Lips
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Well maybe I should have tried the obvious as you suggested Lips .. It Works now! I bypassed the router and everything is fine. It flies right past 98% to 100 and then on to the next part.
Still it is strange that it worked with the router before.. Maybe there a port in the hardware firewall that NL uses that could be opened ?
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I’m glad it worked! You might try downloading the latest firmware for your router and then put it back in loop and see what happens.
If you are using v2 b9, port 4240 is necessary for use with Super Search.
Here’s a link to the necessary ports to have open for use with NL:
http://www.newsleecher.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16261&highlight=4240#16261
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Also, to answer your other questions, yes the parts were showing up in data / parts but it seems the last part was smaller ( I beleive they should all be the same size)
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It is no surprise that the last seg is smaller than the others. This is far from uncommon. Seems to me that all of the parts were probably there (this is what I expect, so I hope it's not scewing my objectivity  )
Thanks for the info.
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I use Trend PC-Cillin AV with a firewall and I have Windows firewall turned off. Trends firewall cannot be turned off withour turning off the AV.
Anyway I'm without a firewall if I want to DL from GN with NL. What a PO!
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Hopefully you'll have your router back in the picture soon. AFA av, I'm sure you can find one that does not require the mandatory use of its firewall. Maybe Kaspersky or AVG.
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urzajay
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: Queued problem |
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The problem comes from downloading from multiple servers.
The problem comes up after some time. NL can't handle multiple servers properly.
Temporary Solution: Only download from one server at a time! Delete the queued files from the queue. Then queue them again.
Developers Solution: Look at downloading from multiple servers at a time. This is what is bugging NL.
The problem was solved when I only connected to 1 server. When I connect to 2 servers the problem is coming up again. Connecting to 1 server then solves it again. |
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Fieldsy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I too have the 98% problem. Have had the feeling all along it was a router problem, and I need to do something with the firmware for my D-Link router because I cant get into the configuration screen for port forwarding... Anywho, my little solution is this. Use NewsBin Pro (or another news reader) for the files that hang with NewsLeecher. Not every file hangs with NewsLeecher, so the files that are still at 98%, I just export to an NZB file and load that up with NewsBin. For some reason, NewsBin will download the files that NewsLeecher cannot and vice versa. Hopefully in the coming months this problem will go away and I can go back to leeching gigabyte after gigabyte without worrying about parts hanging.
NewsLeecher 1.0 Final
GigaNews Unlimited |
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jsdeprey
Joined: 15 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: Same problem |
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I also have this problem, and it drives me nuts.
I was using a trial version of Binary Boy, a crappy newsreader that importes .nzb files, and seems to not have the problem newsleecher does.
That was working find for me, But the trial ran out and I really dont want to buy it after buying newsleecher for this.
I use 1 server with 4 connections to that server (giganews)
Happens if I use SuperSearch or if I use Newzbin.com .nzbs
I have not tried removing my router from the situation, but I am running the newest firmware of a netgear router on a cable modem.
It would be interesting for touble shooting reasons to remove the router for testing, but I do need the router in there, so perm removing it is not a real option as I am sure it isnt for lots of others.
I tried using NZB-O-Matic also and interestingly it has the exact same problems at the what appears to me as the exact same files in a .nzb file.
But its still strange that Binary Boy (a really ugly news reader) did not have this problem at all.
I agree with others, than at least till you can find the actual bug, can you please just add something to work around it.
If you could just notice that a file has been sitting on 98% for awhile and automacticly pause that file that would be awsome, right now I have to do this manually, If I come back to my pc and all 4 connections to my news server are stuck on a different 98% file it just sits there trying over and over again on those 4 files.
Then add a option to decode the 98% of the file that newsleecher grabed sucessfully, I can just use .pars and fix the 98% files.
So I would check on a download and see that all that is left in the queue is 98% downloads that are paused, and I would right click them or select them all and just choose a decode option of some kind and write the incomplete files to my harddrive as is.
par them and I would be done.
Hope this helps in some way or another. |
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dwazegek
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Same problem |
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If you could just notice that a file has been sitting on 98% for awhile and automacticly pause that file that would be awsome, right now I have to do this manually, If I come back to my pc and all 4 connections to my news server are stuck on a different 98% file it just sits there trying over and over again on those 4 files.
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so the connections themselves are hanging? it was my understanding that the files just got stuck, but the connections continued to download other files.
if you haven't already done so, set newsleecher up to reset hanging connections in the options->connection menu. uncheck the "never reset hanging" connection checkbox, and set the timeout to whatever you want. i prefer 2 minutes (the highest setting), otherwise if might reset to often. also make sure newsleecher will reconnect failed connections (every 60 seconds or so) |
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jsdeprey
Joined: 15 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Same problem |
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| jsdeprey wrote:
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If you could just notice that a file has been sitting on 98% for awhile and automacticly pause that file that would be awsome, right now I have to do this manually, If I come back to my pc and all 4 connections to my news server are stuck on a different 98% file it just sits there trying over and over again on those 4 files.
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so the connections themselves are hanging? it was my understanding that the files just got stuck, but the connections continued to download other files.
if you haven't already done so, set newsleecher up to reset hanging connections in the options->connection menu. uncheck the "never reset hanging" connection checkbox, and set the timeout to whatever you want. i prefer 2 minutes (the highest setting), otherwise if might reset to often. also make sure newsleecher will reconnect failed connections (every 60 seconds or so)
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I dont think so, I have tried messing with all that I think, Ill try some more.
What happens is this...
I setup 4 connections to my news server. (giganews)
They all start connections downloading the same file, When that file is at 98% the other 3 connections move on you the next file,
but the first connection gets hung at 98% and resets over and over trying to get that last 2% of the file, takes it 60 secounds, the time I
have set to retry getting that last part but still just tries over and over again. eventually the 3 remaining connections hit another file and
get stuck at 98% and that makes connection number 2 reset over and over trying to get that last 2% of that file.
Eventually all 4 connections are hung and try over and over to get the last 2% of 4 different files that are sitting at 98% down loaded.
So I come home from work, or wake up, whatever, and find file 3, 14, 20, and 27 hung, with over 90 files or something, kinda sucks.
I can then pause those 4 files and the connections will move on until they get stuck again.
I actually have been using NZB-O-MATIC lately, funny thing is it has the exact same problem with the exact same files, but have
one advantage, when they get hung there is a decode option when you right click the file and it dumps the 98% of the file to the
hard drive.
This can really help cause then I can par it and be fine, but it still doesn't automatically skip to the next file when it hits 98%, so it still
takes forever to get something down.
Hope that helps. |
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Lips
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:34 am Post subject: |
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jsdeprey -
Are you connecting to news.giganews.com or news-europe.giganews.com? If you haven't tried news-europe yet, give it a try and see what happens.
Also, are you running an HT machine?
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dwazegek
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Same problem |
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I actually have been using NZB-O-MATIC lately, funny thing is it has the exact same problem with the exact same files...
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either nzb-o-matic has the exact same bug as newsleecher or something is messed up with giganews (or on your route to giganews)
could you supply an nzb with the offending files in it? (post it in a.b.test or something, or just copy-paste it in the forums if it's not too large).
although it might be easier to just give us a few examples of files that are giving these problems, but if you could give an nzb, then we'd be sure we'd be using the same message-ids, so it'd be a better test.
when one of your connections gets stuck, does it really hang (i.e. the progress bar doesn't move at all, or moves a bit bet gets stuck halfway through), or does it download constantly, but just kees on getting the exact same articles?
and are the articles always the same articles (e.g. always the last article of each multipart?), or are they always the same articles of a certain multipart, but not necessarily the same articles every seperate multipart (e.g. article 10 from file 15, article 38 from files 19 etc). also are the articles newsleecher gets stuck on the same articles as nzb-o-matic (i know it's the same files, but just checking to make sure it's the same articles)
anyway, you don't seem to be having the "regular" stuck files bug, normally the files get stuck at 98%, then get marked as queued again and get completely ignored by newsleecher, but the connections continue to download other files. so this might be a new bug altogether (or it might be the same bug giving different results), not that that makes it any better  |
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themortal
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject: hangs with only one connected newsserver |
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i was using giganews,
there were 3 other newsserver added in the newsserver list,
but i was only connected to giganews, and it hanged up with newsleecher beta 12 (or 13 not sure), 2 days ago, there were 4 or 5 last article, 4 connection frozen.
i'll try to check more details next time it happens, if it happen again,
i know this is insufficient (well i'm sure at least this is not due to multiple connected newsserver) |
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Lips
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: hangs with only one connected newsserver |
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i was using giganews,
there were 3 other newsserver added in the newsserver list,
but i was only connected to giganews, and it hanged up with newsleecher beta 12 (or 13 not sure), 2 days ago, there were 4 or 5 last article, 4 connection frozen.
i'll try to check more details next time it happens, if it happen again,
i know this is insufficient (well i'm sure at least this is not due to multiple connected newsserver)
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When you say the connections were "frozen" do you mean that articles were still in the queue and the status showed maybe 98%? If so, updating your NIC drivers might do the trick. Does this happen when you connect to news-europe.giganews.com? Check out the 98% Bug Thread.
If I am way off here, then more details could be of help (at least to me).
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themortal
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:02 am Post subject: |
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indeed the frozen thread were almost complete. going to see that 98% thread, and check this NIC driver thing
Thx! |
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Djm
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Just been fiddling and it seems like a bug with priorities?
I use 8 different servers currently, I had 6 of them as Priority 1 and 2 as Priority 2. When I downloaded some files, it went through the whole list and all the files stayed as queued after saying "initialising" for a bit. This shouldn't happen because I know the files are on the Priority 2 servers.
So I split the priorities up, 3 given Priority 1, 3 given Priority 2, and the last 2 were moved down to Priority 3. Now it goes through the list and realises that the Priority 3 servers have the files and downloads them.
Ah well, hth.
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JinX
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: More detailed info... |
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I've had the same problem for a while now, sometimes it goes great for a while and there are times that a lot of files get stuck.
I noticed the following (it's a bit difficult to explaine but please bare with me):
I have a usenet provider who provides 2 servers with each 4 connections.
When I'm downloading something and notice that the thread gets stuck, I try the Reset Connection on that stuck
thread the time a thread that is being downloaded on the other server is nearly finished.
Most of the time the part is then downloaded from the other server and the file is finished succesfully!
When my attempt failes and nl tries to download the part from the same server it gets stuck again, no matter how
many time I try (or newsleecher automatically does when it resets the hanging connection).
I made the following images with info:
NewsLeecher Configuration details:
Version : 2.0 Final
I have both servers configured as follows:
Port : 119
Connections : 4
Priority : 1
Requires login
Use for Group Updates : checked
Use for Server Searches : checked
User for Article Downloads : checked
Exclude header download from "total bytes received" stats : unchecked
Send 'Group' command to server before downloading : checked
If you need any more details, please let me know. |
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Lips
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: More detailed info... |
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I've had the same problem for a while now, sometimes it goes great for a while and there are times that a lot of files get stuck.
I noticed the following (it's a bit difficult to explaine but please bare with me):
I have a usenet provider who provides 2 servers with each 4 connections.
When I'm downloading something and notice that the thread gets stuck, I try the Reset Connection on that stuck
NewsLeecher Configuration details:
Version : 2.0 Final
I have both servers configured as follows:
Port : 119
Connections : 4
Priority : 1
Requires login
Use for Group Updates : checked
Use for Server Searches : checked
User for Article Downloads : checked
Exclude header download from "total bytes received" stats : unchecked
Send 'Group' command to server before downloading : checked
If you need any more details, please let me know.
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What newsservers are you using? Is it UNS?
Also, are you finding that pausing the 3 connections helps?
What av, firewall are you using? Is you using a router?
Try changing the server priority of one of your two servers to priority 2, so that you will now have a priority 1 server and a priority 2 server.
You probably don't need the "Send Group command" enabled, but maybe your servers need this. Have you experienced article not found errors with this option disabled?
It is possible that cache/NL data file corruption is a problem. You can do a fresh, clean install to a different directory/drive. Rename your current NL directory first.
Not sure yet if this applies to your problem, but have you checked out the 98% bug thread?
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JinX
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: More detailed info... |
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What newsservers are you using? Is it UNS?
If you mean UseNetServer, indirect it is.
Also, are you finding that pausing the 3 connections helps?
No, it doesn't
What av, firewall are you using? Is you using a router?
No AV, ZoneAlarm.
Try changing the server priority of one of your two servers to priority 2, so that you will now have a priority 1 server and a priority 2 server.
I changed that now.
You probably don't need the "Send Group command" enabled, but maybe your servers need this. Have you experienced article not found errors with this option disabled?
Not that I recall.
It is possible that cache/NL data file corruption is a problem. You can do a fresh, clean install to a different directory/drive. Rename your current NL directory first.
Had tried that severall times allready without result.
Not sure yet if this applies to your problem, but have you checked out the 98% bug thread?
The 98% problem is what you could call it and I was to post the details in that one but it said "Giganews ONLY". And they are talking about hardware there - the problem isn't hardware related since the part completes ok on the other server.
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