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revlisoft
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 Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: SuperSearch feature to filter out rar-in-rar files and/or password protected rar |
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SuperSearch feature to filter out rar-in-rar files and/or password protected rar.
This would be so awesome since it would basically limit and filter out all the usenet garbage. |
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jemenake
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'm now seeing that the spammers are responding by renaming the rar file to something else. They'll lop off the extension and call it something strange. For example, instead of "Transformers.rar", it'll just be called "Dabney" or something.
Fortunately, for now, I've come across the *same* name each time. So, I'm thinking that it might be useful if NL had a text box in the Options section where we could list a bunch of filenames where it would abort/pause the download if it spotted any of those names inside the rar. |
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Delerium_76
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| You know, newsleecher has added a feature that pauses a download package when it detects a rar-in-rar file, or password protected files. The problem is, people have to keep downloading these packages over and over wasting time and bandwidth, just to get the same result hundreds before them got. Since supersearch is a Usenet search service that we pay for, why aren't these detections used for supersearch? It seems like a waste to detect it, then throw that info away, and it wouldn't be that hard to send back that info to supersearch about archives that have been detected as being rar-in-rar. That way supersearch can collect a list of these archives and give users the option to filter these out. |
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jemenake
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Since supersearch is a Usenet search service that we pay for, why aren't these detections used for supersearch? It seems like a waste to detect it, then throw that info away, and it wouldn't be that hard to send back that info to supersearch about archives that have been detected as being rar-in-rar. That way supersearch can collect a list of these archives and give users the option to filter these out.
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I agree.
A couple of years ago, I think I made a suggestion like this regarding users being able to feed back about which search items actually contained what they claimed, etc... but it got shot down because it got a little too close to dealing with copyrighted stuff.
But this suggestion seems to be pretty agnostic about whether the contents are copyrighted or not. It just cares whether the rar contains another rar... |
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Trist0r
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm now seeing that the spammers are responding by renaming the rar file to something else. They'll lop off the extension and call it something strange. For example, instead of "Transformers.rar", it'll just be called "Dabney" or something.
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I hope it's okay to post to an older topic but I just ran into this same issue for the first time. Instead of a simple .rar in .rar it was three files. One was a password.html or something similar, password.txt (not exact name) and a 678MB .rar file without an extension, named Gnomeo -as I said first I've seen of it and this post was only one I saw that was similar.
Hope that helps in development of anti-SPAM detection. |
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darkmatter612
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| Trist0r wrote:
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| jemenake wrote:
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I'm now seeing that the spammers are responding by renaming the rar file to something else. They'll lop off the extension and call it something strange. For example, instead of "Transformers.rar", it'll just be called "Dabney" or something.
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I hope it's okay to post to an older topic but I just ran into this same issue for the first time. Instead of a simple .rar in .rar it was three files. One was a password.html or something similar, password.txt (not exact name) and a 678MB .rar file without an extension, named Gnomeo -as I said first I've seen of it and this post was only one I saw that was similar.
Hope that helps in development of anti-SPAM detection.
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Yes this rar in rar stuff keeps on slipping through even with the latest versions of newsleecher. The rar-in-rar feature is pretty much the only reason I subscribe to newsleecher now and don't use something free like Mimo. Maybe it needs to check the file header rather than the extension? I'm not sure how the little bastards are getting through but it is a real pain. |
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jemenake
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yes this rar in rar stuff keeps on slipping through even with the latest versions of newsleecher. The rar-in-rar feature is pretty much the only reason I subscribe to newsleecher now and don't use something free like Mimo. Maybe it needs to check the file header rather than the extension? I'm not sure how the little bastards are getting through but it is a real pain.
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What if Newsleecher had a setting where we could list filenames to look for in archives (like "password.html", say), where, if it finds that in the RAR, it either aborts it, pauses it, or at least asks us whether we want to continue? |
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ap3c0
Joined: 20 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: Filters Filters Filters |
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| What NL needs is enhanced filtering which would bookmark specific filters by poster, subject, files with pars, rar in rars, language as posted in subject, etc. I've been requesting this feature for 2 years now and despite assurances that this feature was planned for a future release, have so far been ignored. The last 10 posts I've read, 3 of them were requests for filters which would have been covered under this enhanced filtering capability. Permanent, or bookmark filters would eliminate nearly all spam and make usenet far easier and safer to navigate and use. Would be nice if they would finally take notice of this and add it. |
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jemenake
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:17 am Post subject: Re: Filters Filters Filters |
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| ap3c0 wrote:
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What NL needs is enhanced filtering which would bookmark specific filters by poster, subject,
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Spammers will just change their usernames and subject lines. It's trivial to do so.
Also, I don't want to have to have to bother with a huge set of filters... playing "Whack-a-Mole" as I try to keep up with the changing poster names and subject lines.
I think what would be most-effective would be if NL capitalized on crowdsourcing and allowed us to mark different SuperSearch results as spammy/deceptive/malicious (I'm not saying that we'd differentiate between those, I just mean that we should be able to flag stuff as being contrary to the spirit of Usenet or the particular newsgroup).
Then, we could all set our own copies of NL to filter out results flagged by more than X users. |
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