[FEATURE REQUEST] A 64bit compile of Newsleecher?

[plvick]

[Delerium_76]

a few comments here.... currently when I fire up newsleecher and check mem usage idle, it sits at around 45 meg. That is a FAR CRY lower than the 2 gig?!? mentioned by betax.

I currently run a decent system with 4 gigs of ram, but I'm still running the standard xp sp3 so I only get around 3.5 gig usage out of it. I just don't see a point in upgrading to vista when xp works stable for me and everything I need to run will run on it.

If your newsleecher is eating up 2 gigs of memory while sitting idle, I'd be asking questions too, but more importantly, a good question would be why are you the only one who has reported THAT much memory usage while idle?

About the only reason I can see as being important enough for spiral to change from delphi to something like C# would be to make it cross-platform capable. That would open up newsleecher to a larger market base, which translates to more money. Lets face it, without cashflow going into newsleecher, we would get no supersearch or updates to the software period. This is a business after all.

[tolyngee]

For huge groups, and with Giganews having 200+ days of retention, these huge groups (Sorry, can't think of a good example off hand) will give out of memory errors if you try to keep more than like 180 days worth of headers.

I know they're huge, but would a 64-bit version help this, or any other help?

Dunno if it's already been discussed somewhere, and while i like NL, this is the ONLY issue I know of with NL that there's no workaround for.

It's not a show stopper, but it would be nice to be able to see all the headers available in a group...

Or is this possibily that issue where there are more than 2^32 headers in the group?

(don't flame me hard, there's a good chance I don't know what I'm talking about in any direction...)

[cool_recep]

Hi, I would like to see an x64 release of newsleecher too

[TFH]

We are a bit further down the line now, and I was wondering if there is already any news regarding a 64bit version of Newsleecher. 64 Bit machines & OS'es have become more popular over time, so... it would be a logical step

[Chinch]

the next complaint i think i can see ----

user A has 8GB of memory and wants everything held in memory and done there, only touching the disk to save the end result.

user B has 2GB of memory running Vista... and complains Newsleecher is too slow when the above is implemented.

regardless, memory and page file usage is all OS controlled anyways.... so can you truly "KEEP" something in memory? i suppose unless you totally disabled swap file.

question to developers -- is there a function or way to explicitly tell the OS to keep a certain allocation of memory or open file in memory at all times (never swap)?

i imagine with 8GB there's no need for a page file anyways, but I have also heard arguments to the contrary... that has been a long standing debate.... swap file or no swap file, how big should it be... should it be on its own partition... should it be a swap brick, should you use no swap file if you have above X amount of memory. what formula do you use to calculate optimal swap file size....

goes on and on....

but those seem to be 32-bit issues i would assume, since after 3.x gigs gets used, something is going to have to be paged off.... not so much the same scenario with a 64 bit system/OS and 8GB (or more)...

i guess the ultimate answer is to look in your task/resource manager and see what your page file utilization is and how much w/ your normal usage.

[Quaraxkad]

[Chinch]

interesting.. i did not know that. gotta love disk thrashing as much as possible. unless you have a nice SSD.... what do they call that? disk flashing? haw haw haw... :/

for my post right above, i came across the answer i think in another thread where spiral or someone else basically answered my question...

[murdod]

Over a year on from the last post on this subject, I was curious if there was any further development RE 64bit compile of Newsleecher?

I only ask because I am trying to get as much of my software switched over to a 64bit compiled version as apposed to a 64bit compatible version.

[sheepshagger]

until delphi release a 64bit compiler the answer is no

[murdod]

Ok thanks.

[p0W3Rh0u5e]

It looks like Embarcadero is getting closer to launch Delphi 64bit:

http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/64-bit

[anton_undac]

Long term newsleecher user here.
I'm typically browsing vast numbers of groups with "show old" enabled and even though I have a system with dual Vertex 3 240GB in RAID0, 12 GB DDR 1600 (cas8) and a Intel Extreme i7 (6 cores, 12 threads, at 4 Ghz) etc
newsleecher can tend to be sluggish, especially when typing stuff into the filter box when browsing several groups at once.
I must say it's basically as sluggish as my old laptop with a 1 Ghz pemtium M and 2 GB of RAM. So I'm kind of stumped.

I see that the delphi compiler is available now and that it's now 2012, not 2008.
Any progress on a 64 bit executable and do you guys think it would help remedying the problems i describe above?

I'm not sure if it's a memory problem I'm seeing though as newsleecher never tends to use even close to the 2GB limitation anyways (usually tops out at 1,7 GB)

[kel]

Have to agree. 32bit is really showing age, especially when dealing with large groups and servers/hosts with good retention.

Here is Newsleecher just loading & getting headers one such group (and only 1 group):

[duggi]

super, i find more bugs in windows 7 64bit then in nl, sure, even bing desktop is 32bit on windows 7 64bit, let me know when its ready as native 64bit, then i will register promptly, anyone know where to report bugs to microsoft ?